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Why Buffy The Vampire Slayer isn’t over yet

Submitted by Kevin.Beaumont on November 24, 2008 – 9:23 pmView Comments

Kevin Beaumont has something to say.

The year is 2008, and that sound you hear crackling is a pile of money burning in 20th Century Fox’s back yard.  Let me explain.

To form a major motion picture, you need three elements: a story (your creative reason), a profitable venture (a business reason), and a talented cast and crew (your creative force).  It also requires strong catering on set.

When “Buffy The Vampire Slayer” finished airing in 2003, I knew the show was over – it had bowed out with something to say.

But yet the story kept bouncing around in my head.  Would anybody ever like Dawn?  Would Buffy ever touch Xander in the bad place?

Fast forward to 2008.  Clearly I wasn’t the only person pondering those characters and their story.  Series creator Joss Whedon started a “season eight” comic, aided by many former Buffy writers, to continue tales in the universe.

“Buffy” is an international franchise, providing major DVD sales for 20th Century Fox, with brand recognition in all major territories.  Most of the staff writers have gone on to big gigs, many winning major roles on hit TV shows.  Show lead Sarah Michelle Gellar has gone on to front horror pic “The Grudge” and family friendly “Scooby Doo” (written by the foul mouthed and entirely hilarious James Gunn).

So, now all you need is a business reason.

And here it is: “Twilight”.  ”Twilight” is essentially lite-horror, romance porn.  But make no mistake – in it’s opening weekend, the modestly budgeted ($38m) flick took over $70m.  For something to be considered successful enough for a sequel, a general rule of thumb is two and a half times the production budget on domestic release.  ”Twilight” should easily make that mark by its second weekend.  It turns out a vampiresque story with added romance and teen appeal could be a worldwide hit.  Who’d have thought?

Oh yes.  Joss Whedon.

I know what you’re thinking.  Yes, cheesecake is great — and back when the first Buffy movie was made, it was a box office bomb.  Because it was.  Because it was an almost terrible mess of badly executed ideas.  Joss didn’t have creative control of the movie, because it simply wasn’t his movie – direction laid elsewhere, and he was, in movie direction terms – a small fish.

Forget the cheesecake and come back to 2008 with me – now you have somebody who understands movie direction, who has an amazing cast who want to move on to the big screen.  You have, in Joss, somebody who wants to make a big summer action movie.  You have somebody who has those characters and that story burning in his brain, itching to escape.  And – critically – you have somebody who understands teen appeal vampire romance porn like nobody else on the planet.

There’s a stack of money waiting to be made here.  And let’s not even mention Whedonites across the global and their DVD fetish.  Want midnight screenings and buzz, too?  Check.

The real question is this – what story would you tell in a 2 hour motion picture?

Update:  The Twilight sequel has been greenlit.

  • The Doc
    In Hollywood terms this kind of movie tends to be a series of horror/action adventure set-pieces linked by characters, whereas Buffy should be a character story with horror/action-adventure set-pieces inserted. If they don't further the story then don't put them in. Villain: The Master. This is the only enemy to directly kill Buffy and she has an emotional connection which would be interesting to revisit. The resurrection of The Master would bring in magic from Willow and Giles - and perhaps conflict between them and Buffy. I would caution against cameos for every character (so we wouldn't necessarily see Spike or Faith) but I suppose Angel would have to be in there somewhere for obvious reasons. Fans have to remember that a movie has to appeal to non-Buffy fans and so the litmus test for ideas would be "Does this idea/scene/sub-plot make sense without foreknowledge of the Tv series?". Also, I'd recommend it would be a one-off movie to close BtVS forever...leaving the way open for something else perhaps..?
  • I
    I recently finished rewatching the 6th and 7th season of buffy the vampire slayer, and i think it would definatelyt be possible to make either a movie or possibly even another series. When i finished the last episode, i couldnt help but feel as if it couldnt end there, im addicted to btvs. The characters could still hold the same show as they did previously. And as other people have mentined, i would too be very happy to que for a day or two to see the movie (and pay a lot for a new series)...

    /what we really need to do is write to joss whedon XD/
  • Mike
    So it will be back?
  • kay
    i really hope that smg will be willing to do buffy again but i doubt it, unless david boreanaz is doing it she will probably? who knows? please somehow joss bring back charisma carpenter! i miss cordy and i was angry when joss killed off all the great females: anya, tara, darla etc i would love a movie
  • JonS
    Let's take a little breather here, folks. I am a huge Buffy fan, but I feel there are some problems with the blog post above. First, I think Twilight is a phenomenon unto itself. I don't think it's indicative of a renewed interest in vampire stories (although you can bet we'll see tons of knock offs in the next year or two as movie studios scramble to cash in on what they think is the Next Big Thing). I liken it to the Harry Potter series, which tapped into a fan base in a similar way. Second, while Buffy fans are a passionate and enthusiastic lot, they're still a small audience in the grand scheme of things. That's not a knock on Buffy fans, people. We love us some Buffy, but there aren't THAT many of us. Don't believe me? Look at what happened to Firefly. Despite passionate campaigning (perhaps too passionate) by Browncoats, "Serenity" just didn't do well enough to justify a sequel. Third, the comics format gives Joss the ability to tell stories with no real limitations. There's no special effects budget -- if someone can draw it, he can write it. Why go back to a format that has limitations when you're already catering to your audience using a different medium? And fourth, as others have pointed out, the cast, writers and producers have moved on. Some still work with Joss, some are doing their own thing. Pulling them back for another round of Buffy wouldn't be easy, and with the other points I've mentioned above I don't think it's likely.

    Remember, I'm a fan. I'm not trying to be negative; I'm trying to be realistic. I'd LOVE to see more Buffy. I just don't think it's going to happen.
  • Calvin
    In response to
    "1. Who is the Immortal fella that Buffy was with?"

    That wasn't actually Buffy, it was one of two lookalike slayers assigned to protect Buffy's true whereabouts. One partied around with the Immortal and the other had the much less pleasant job of fighting demons in a subterranean cavern.
  • My heart aches for more Buffy. And not just Buffy in panel form, but Buffy and gang on the screen. But you know what? No matter how much I think I want it, deep down I know a movie with the original cast would be an absolute disaster. The SMG/Buffy era is over. And it should be. It ended beautifully. Anything else would cheapen the 7-year masterpiece we've been given.

    But FRAY. Oh, my goddess. A whole new cast wrapped in a gorgeous new package that pays perfect TRIBUTE to the greatest TV show of all time? Now that would make me cry.
  • Carlo Manning
    l would think the idea would be great if Joss and the former cast members of Buffy and Angel would agree to do it. And l also agree with the person that u could possibly tie Buffy with Angel esp since both left u wanting more.
  • annie
    I've been saying for years that there's money in that buffyverse!! Just two nights ago I had and odd dream about a Buffy movie being made and woke up with a very sad feeling that we're all getting older (I'm the same age as SMG) and how terrible if the next generation didn't get the chance to enjoy this story. A shame if all they had was Twilight!
  • Judy
    If Joss is the artistic genius that I believe him to be, a 'new' Buffy movie would be a continuation that is removed from the original cast of characters. Perhaps a few might make cameo appearances. To try and truly continue the Buffy universe could only be successful if Joss does not try to pick up where the graphic novels are at this time. Look at how he spun off Angel from Buffy. A few well placed characters to make the transition, but overall a completely different style (urban versus high school) and story line that mentions Buffy/Sunnydale on only necessary occasions.

    I am a Buffy/Angel/Joss Whedon fan with my whole heart but if I saw David B attempt Angel after such a successful run in Bones, or Sarah after all of her successful projects, or even Seth Green turn into beastie boy again, I would be sorely disappointed in Joss and his creative team. But somehow I don't think that I will have to suffer that disappointment. I have faith that Joss will use his creativity to expand the Buffy et al universe to new heights instead of trying to revive Sunnydale. What is that saying, "you can never go home again"? However, I have to say I am curious to know whther Buffy finishes baking or gets burned in the end. Hmmmm...When a slayer dies, a new one arises. Anyone like the idea of knowing how that story would go? I would pay big money to know who becomes the next 'real slayer' and a story which would have all of the same vampire nostalgia that Joss and David and Tim created.
  • buffyrat
    A movie would be a joy to behold! I have my doubts if the principals would be interested, though. But I'd pay to go see it, several times, and buy the dvd too!
  • Budji
    Yeah I totally agree, a Buffy movie would be amazing. Joss could totally tie in the Angel characters and have them all come together for one final (Lord of the Rings) style battle, the way we alwys imagined it would end.
    I think it would be a box office smash, and open up the doors for a new, younger generation to discover Buffy on DVD!!
  • Philippa
    Well... Themes that might be addressed:-
    1. Who is the Immortal fella that Buffy was with?
    2. How is Buffy going to react to Spike being around again?
    3. Tie-in with the Shon-su [/spelling?] prophecy from Angel.
    4. Illyria vs Buffy.
    5. Is there anything left of the Watchers' council?
    6. Is Marcus Hamilton really dead?
    7. What happened to Oz?
  • I'd love a movie that takes off from the Season 8 comics. Sadly, though, it seems that pleasing the Twilight fans would mean reverting back to Season 2.
  • Olivia
    I totally agree- I think a Buffy movie would be amazing, if done right. If Joss Whedon could do such a great job with Serenity, he could def do it again w/ a Buffy movie!!!!!
  • I'd love a Buffy movie...would love it even more if it was made from my novel... *Grins* Of course, that won't happen because my novel has a happy ending (and, Joss/happy ending? Not so much) and my novel focuses more on the characters rather than the fighty fight stuff. If you're interested...you can find it by googling Willow's Promise...it's received some nice reviews.
  • Brandon
    I'm all for a new Buffy movie, and bringing Angel back to the story would also be awesome. Maybe have the gang infiltrate Cleveland, take out that Hellmouth. Oz returning for some one-last-time save-the-world ass-kicking would be amazing too.
  • Cheryl
    Man, FINALLY somebody makes some noise for Buffy, Joss style on the silver screen. Wouldn't that just be the most awesome thing in the world? SMG and DB are such pretty people, here's hoping for more amazing Buffy and Angel scenes. ASH is also a must, as is the other Scoobs. Bring it on Joss. I'll take an army to the viewing.
  • Dorian
    Ummm...yes Chastity, I have seen James Marsters (who played Spike) in real life. He looks great. A little make-up and some bleach and he'd do just fine.
    On the overall topic-there isn't enough squee in the world for a Buffy movie. Bring it!
  • Summer
    I would stand in line for a midnight viewing too! I was really bummed when Joss passed on Wonder Woman. Maybe the stars are in alignment if that cable show doesn't succeed for SMG. I hear "How I Met Your Mother" isn't doing too hot in the ratings either. Then again, I don't watch tv very often. Anyway, here's hoping!!!
  • Chastity
    lol tht wuz funnie i hope there will be a nother buffy movie before there 50 but ew have yu guys seen spike in real life omgosh he looked so much better in buffy its sad wesly looks better than hym nd is younger
  • suziqb77
    I think another would be great. If they could get all the TV series actors, that would be even better!
  • Jerry
    Let's just hope a Buffy movie is scripted and green-lit before the scooby gang turns 50.

    Extra points for crossovers to Angel Season 5, perhaps a flashback to Italy with the Immortal, and more of Andrew saying "it eats you starting with your bottom."
  • Lauryn
    Sarah will do a Buffy movie if she likes the script. And of course she will love a script by Joss.
  • DixieKittyLove
    Just a couple of sticking points: One is that the cast (also the actors) of BTVS are no longer teens. You have to pick up the story after Season 8 and everybody is way past high school and Sunnydale is a big hole in the ground. The second thing is how are you going to get Sarah "I'm too good for Buffy now" Michele Geller back to the project. She's not crazy about her teen superhero past.
  • Jonathan Jenkins
    I would rather have a fray movie. It could be about the graphic novel from a few years ago and still show Buffy and Co. fighting the big battle that ended the age of magic. It would be so awesome. Plus, by showing that, you end up with a segway into a Buffy Prequel that shows the build up of the final battle.
  • Stacey
    Midnight screenings? I'd be in a line round the block waiting for a Buffy movie! I dont get why it has taken the rest of the world (or it seems the box office), five years to realise what fun there is in "vampire romance porn". If only Joss and his actors would do a movie... but to be honest, I think despite the fact I'd love to see this cast and these characters back on the screen - if the movie didnt beat what the series had as a whole, it would ruin the entire seven seasons that aired in the first place. But yes I agree, the legacy that Buffy left over, really is not dead (I'm now being given lectures on Buffy the Vampire Slayer at university which I find really odd)!
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