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Submitted by Kirsty.Walker on October 22, 2009 – 8:53 pmView Comments

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Amid controversy the BBC has invited BNP leader and MEP Nick Griffin to the Question Time panel. Tonight, EOS will liveblog the programme, if only to spare you the chore of watching it. So who are the panel?

Nick Griffin MEP

Chairman of the BNP and Member of the European Parliament for the North West of England. Former National Front member. Studied law at Downing College, Cambridge.

Bonnie Greer

Chicago born playwright and critic who now lives in Britain. Studied at the Actor’s studio in New York. Has appeared on QT six times.

Jack Straw MP

Lord Chancellor and Justice Secretary. Studied law at the University of Leeds. Home Secretary for five years and is the incumbent MP for Blackburn.

Baroness Warsi (Sayeeda)

Shadow Minister for Community. Also studied law at Leeds. Has in the past courted controversy over supposedly homophobic electioneering, and once said that people who voted BNP “had a point”.

Chris Huhne MP

Lib Dem Home Affairs Spokesman and former leadership candidate. Studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford. Former journalist and Member of the European Parliament.

Join us here at 22.35 GMT for the liveblog, comments are open. (God help us). We’ll also be periodically updating on Twitter, follow @endofshow

22.35pm   Dave D has a tie which is offensive in itself

22.36 Question “Is it fair that the BNP has hijacked Churchill as its own?”

Jack Straw says no. Bit of a closed question really.

22.40 Straw mentions the Asian soldiers who died fighting for the allies in WW2.

22.41 Griffin : “No other party would have Churchill, he was critical of Islam. I am not a Nazi and never have been.”

22.42 No matter what Dave D says, this is pretty much the Nick Griffin show so far, audience hate him but he’s getting most of the focus for his views.

22.44 Dimbleby : “You say you’re misquoted. I can find the misquotes.”

22.46 Bonnie Greer “You can laugh but if I was a BNP member I’d be scared.” [On the constitution changes].

22.47 Audience member : Enoch Powell’s views were the same as Griffins and he got Ted Heath into number 10.

22.48 Chris Huhne : “Churchill would be rolling in his grave. He was never a fascist,and what we have from Griffin is ‘Yes,Adolf went a bit too far’.

22.51 Griffin “I shared a platform with a leader of the KKK, a non-violent one.”

22.52 Bonnie Greer not happy with Griffin on the KKK issue. He’s saying he tried to ‘win him over’ with moderate language.

22.53 Audience member : Why has it taken legal action to force you to change your entrance policy?

22.54 Audience member : Churchill put everything on the line so that my ancestors weren’t slaughtered in the concentration camps, yet you say it was a myth.

22.55 Griffin : “I can’t talk about it because of European law”. [They all refute this].

22.56 Griffin “I have changed my mind – one of the key things is British US intercepts of German radio reporting genocides”.

22.57 Question : “Why is Islam a wicked an vicious faith?”

22.57 Griffin “Because it says that women who are raped should be stoned to death. My policy is one of truce with Islam. We should never have gone into Iraq.”

22.59 Lady Warsi “I can’t work out whether he despises Muslims or wants to be their best friends. Mr Griffin shared a platform with Abu Hamza and considers him to have similar views. He brings Christianity into disrepute aswell.”

23.00 Audience member “I’m a British Bangladeshi Muslim. I find that you’re isolated the Muslim community, you are misrepresenting Islam.”

23.01 Greer “What matters to Nick is his potted history of Britain. The Romans were multicultural, and when Rome left, the other cultures were left behind as indiginous.”

23.03 Audience member : Can the recent success of the BNP be explained by the misguided immigration policy of the present Government?”

23.04 Straw : “Powell invited immigration. The BNP is a transmogrification of the National Front. We’ve had a long history of immigration in this country, I don’t know anyone who can say they’re pure British.”

23.05 Straw : “We have introduced point system but one of the great strengths of this country is its diversity.”

23.07 Lady Warsi “People who vote for the BNP are doing it because of poverty, deprivation and immigration. They feel the government has not resourced the areas to accomodate that. Mainstream parties should tackle the underlying issues that are making people vote BNP. There are many people who vote BNP who are not racist, we need to tell them that we are ready to deal with their issues.”

23.09 Audience member “The Tories joined the EU and caused European immigration.”

23.10 Audience member “Crossing the box for the BNP is an easy way to voice your anger at the mishandling of immigration.”

23.11 Audience member “Griffin will wrap his slimy arms around any bandwagon going.”

23.12 Seems to be no BNP supporters in this audience whatsoever, unusual for a Question Time crowd not to have representatives of a panellists party.

23.13 Huhne “The government made a mistake in its projections when we decided we would let in everyone from Eastern Europe. Most of the other countries did not allow free immigration, we opened our borders.”

23.14 Griffin “Straw was right when he said it was the fault of the entire political elite. The government’s figures show that the indiginous British [Straw : "You mean the whites?"] The English, the Welsh and the Scots, we are the aborigines here. The majority of the British people have lived here since time immemorial, we feel shut out in our country. Guided tours in the Lake District were cancelled because only white people were goig on them.”

23.17 DD “Successive governments are committing genocide against their own people?”

23.18 Greer “People came after the ice age from the south to Britain, all of us are descended from Africa. The only people on this continent were Neanderthals.”

23.20 Audience member “This is a question to Dick..sorry Nick Griffin. You want to stem immigration, where do you want me to go? [Member is non-white]. We’ll have a whip round to buy you a ticket to the South Pole, it’s a colourless landscape, it will suit you fine.”

23.21 Griffin “I’m happy for you to stay here. Criminals and bogus asylum seekers should be deported, everyone else can stay.”

23.22 Straw “I’m 3rd generation Jewish emigree, we don’t want to pull up the drawbridge.Putting a cap on population is impossible, you have to be very authoritarian. For example, how many children can be born.”

23.25 Audience member “Why are we letting thousands of immigrants in when we have massive unemployment?”

23.25 Audience member “I work with refugees who are taking jobs that British people won’t do.”

23.25 Question “Should the Daily Mail have published the Jan Moir article on Stephen Gately?”

23.26 Greer “One of the qualities of democracy is freedom of speech. I didn’t like the article but she had the right to write it. That’s called democracy.”

23.26 Huhne “I entirely defend the right to print but I didn’t approve of it. To say that someone has brought on themselves a sleazy lifestyle and died – that’s in extremely bad taste.”

23.28 Lady Warsi [is against the scrapping of section 28] “I think that papers have the right to publish, and the responsibility sometimes not to. I was brought up to hope people are resting in peace, not take their name in vain. I think that people who want a civil partnership have the right.”

23.30 Griffin “I personally believe that you should say nothing bad about the dead. A lot of people find the sight of two men kissing as revolting.The BNP position is that militant homosexuals should not preach to children, that is perverse.”

23.32 Straw “I celebrate the fact that people who are gay are able tohonour their relationship in

23.22 Audience member “As a gay person Mr Griffin, the feeling of revulsion is mutual.”

23.34 Question : “Is this programme an early Christmas present for the BNP?”

23.34 Greer : “The British people have too much common sense for that.”

23.35 Lady Warsi : “I’m glad that the program has gone ahead, Nick Griffin has been exposed for what he really is”.

23.35 Griffin : “The BBC is an ultra leftist organisation, the program has been of interest to some people.”

23.35 Straw : “This has been a disastrous week for the BNP”.

END OF SHOW

This edition of the program can be seen again on BBC iPlayer.

  • KC
    Griffin is an evil, lying shit, but the scum outside attempting to deny him free speech not by peacefully protesting but by charging into the BBC are little better in my opinion.
  • robert carson
    No more comments ? because you know I am correct .
  • Phil
    No, I was just waiting to see how big a hole you dug for yourself. Wow,that's a big hole.I'll limit it to a couple of points. Who is indigenous? Both parents born here? All 4 grandparents? 7 out of 8 great-grandparents? All ancestors back to the Normans,no they were invaders,the Saxons,no they were as well, the Celts, oops-Celtic civilization started in Switzerland. Define your use of the term otherwise it's meaningless. Hate to point this out to you, but all the ancestors of everyone came from outside Britain at some point. Yes, you too are descended from foreigners! British culture has always be connected to, and influenced by other nations as well. Guess you'll have to be illogically scared of yourself now.

    'I would say most English people are fed up being made to feel ashamed of being English' Really? I've never been ashamed of being British. You and your friends/co-workers/neighbours must get ashamed really easily. Why do you think that they represent most people anyway? Do you have any actual evidence for that? Who is it that's making them feel like that? Because I've never heard anything that could make me ashamed of myself from anyone. I AM ashamed of other people portraying themselves as the 'true face' of Britishness, on the basis of ignorance, fear,their own inadequancies and lack of self worth.
  • robert carson
    Nick got a kicking because the audiance were all anti BNP , bit obvious, should have had a few members at the show,He couldnt say any thing without being interupted.
    I would say most English people are fed up being made to feel ashamed of being English, hence no English boxes on any of the passport forms, even though we gave the English language to the world we should be ashamed!!"!!
  • robert carson
    Nick Griffin was trying to make the point that all the other lilly livered left wing parties have allowed the migrants more say than the people (indigineous)population, we have become second, no third class citizens in our own country, the Muslims are trying to hijack Xmas and they would love sherean law, migrants play the race card when ever they want and border patrols are useless , we must round all the illegals up as quick as possible get them out of our homes (any council properties or any other welfare home and ship them out )
    I dont care ware just out!Let the Engglish have there homes back.

    EDIT FROM END OF SHOW

    I was going to delete this but the bad spelling was too funny.
  • robert carson
    Just shows you another liberal left wing dope , that worries about the spelling rather than the content.P.S spell check not working and I am righting at speed to get my point over .
  • yj
    Nick is getting such a kicking.
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