I would rather fox asked fans to put up the money to fund the show, like someone else said we could donate the money to fox on the condition that they spend all the money on the show. Fans however dont own the show or the rights to the show in any way.

Perhaps even get a company/s to sponsor each episode in return for tv advertising for that company.

Anyone know how much it costs to create an episode of Terminator (average)?

Give it a try. A couple of DVD movies are better than nothing.

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A DVD/BlueRay release would usually be a series of feature length episodes over the time, right? I don't see how the Terminator franchise would want to have this arround to compete with the T4 movie, the prospective T5, T6 and the disc releases of these.

I think this is the actual reason why T:SCC was poorly promoted, sent to the Friday Death Slot and ultimately put to sleep — despite the fact that the show developed strongly by the end of season 2 and anyone could see its high potential to attract more viewers in a third season. The franchise has simply shifted it's focus to the new generation of Terminator movies. No need for a T:SCC that the TV audience has grown to love for good reasons. That's why the Fox executives "ultimately decided" against renewal of T:SCC. Viewer ratings, viewer shmatings!

Let TSCC continue season 3!!!!!!!!

But, why worry about DVD sales?

A subscription based website would allow us to pay enough for monthly installments of new episodes.
That would be better than a one time DVD.

I'd buy that for a dollar. (Robocop quote)

Yes, I'm in.
Where do I sign up?

We loyally watch Fox Networks programmes, then they just drop them. I'm not ever going to watch a Fox show again, because all they do is cheat you.

I have no idea why this great show never got the ratings other than the network itself lack of promotion and properly scheduling of the series. TSCC would have done better at a later time of evening other than scheduling it like a kid's program.

With TV revenues taking a dive, Fox missed a great chance to start doing what WILL be required for shows and networks to survive and prosper - time shifting. Half the number of shows, marginally increasing the budget of each and scheduling each episode to air 2 or 3 times per week at different times.

I'll take a DVD over nothing at all, but it has to have the same actors and characters.

I'm seeing a whole lot of posting but barely any Digging here. If this were to make it to the front page, we may just have a fighting chance to see Season 3 on DVD. If you don't have a Digg account, sign up for one. It takes less than a minute of your time, time that is currently being spent ranting about the show's cancellation.

At the same time, I feel as if there should be something posted regarding the actors, writing and producing staff's dedication towards TSCC, or lack thereof (none of us *truly* knows how they feel about doing something like this) to make this happen, as well. If they've moved on, then this is nothing more than an exercise in futility. Just calling it like I see it.

Sorry, but these aren't new ideas.

I wrote about them a month ago...

--Kyle

I'll take season 3 however I can get it. Series, DVD, Hulu, iTunes, whatever. I am invested in the story and these characters.

I REALLY hope Fox brings back TSCC for a 3rd season, but if not I can tell you I would have any Direct to DVD TSCC on pre-order months in advance!!!

Let's do it. We need more Terminator and Sarah Connor Chronicles.

The sad truth about the show is that it has a great cast and plot, but no clue as to where it is headed. They've taken an hour's worth of ideas and stretched them out for 22 hours. Even the finale was kind of aimless, another "we killed off a character and brought them back to life again" scifi twist which has gotten really old lately. The idea that skynet could have competition from another robot was interesting though.

According to JMS, Babylon 5's attempt to go to direct-to-DVD did not fail. The issue with B5 had to do with Warner asking for another release of new material but substantially cutting the budget for it which put JMS in the position of saying "thanks but no."

Okay. Fox wants to cancel TSCC? LOL. Not a problem. Terminator is the only TV show left from the Whedonverse that I follow. It is about people, not always about sex. I like Dollhouse, don't get me wrong and want both to be renewed, but Fox cancelling TSCC means I cancel Fox.

Will they care? Probably not. That is okay, too, because like Jericho, TSCC has an underlying message that the Politically Correct whores at the networks are probably uncomfortable with and that is a shame.

We will know tomorrow for sure, I suppose. Either way, I win. If they renew it, I get to continue to watch TSCC. If they cancel it, I get another hour back in my life and am then completely free from network televison, LOL.

-Tim

"Terminator is the only TV show left from the Whedonverse that I follow."

Huh?

Terminator is not part of the Whedonverse, and has nothing to do with Joss Whedon.

To be honest, if FOX do cancel the show, I'd rather Warner Bros. shop it around the cable networks first. The show's not that expensive to make and certainly cheaper than some cable shows (Stargate SG1 & Atlantis, BSG). It already has a steady, dedicated, worldwide fanbase, which would suit someone like SciFi, as they have channels in other countries.

That would be my first choice.

IF we're going straight to DVD, would it have to be a movie(s)? Couldn't they do a straight to DVD 13 episode season, instead? I'd prefer that to a 2 hour movie, really.

It SHOULD BE a "no brainer" . . . the SciFi Channel . . . they resurrected Stargate and had a HUGE run on that - - SG1 was good . . . the other incarnations = LAME.

SCIFI Channel is where TSCC should go WITH the existing characters just like Stargate did . . . who knows maybe it will get 5 more seasons there?!?!?!?

Wow...that's really funny the rumble here...anyway ...Sarah Connor is dope...and I love Dollhouse...I am happy Dollhouse is back...but don't be bummed if Terminator goes the way of the Dvd MOVIE...have any of you people seen the Battlestar Galactica Dvd movies...Razor or CAPRICA...I'm just sayin'...it might wind up bringing the show back if they use that format to knock it out the box...keep an open mind ya'all...and please...these people at Fox are finally hooking us geeks up with good scifi...lets rejoice we got choices... cuz who knows how long this will last!

There's going to be a huge backlash if Fox cancels TSCC and renews Dollhouse. Renewing TSCC should be a no brainer for Fox, it's got so much upside compared to Dollhouse. Let's also not forget the renewed interest in the Terminator franchise when T4 becomes a summer blockbuster.

i think that it needs to be on the CW it would do much better there

With the fate of TSCC seeminlgy being sealed, and Dollhouse on the chopping block, if not this season, next, I will now find it very difficult to become attached to any other show Fox produces in the future.

Consider that they cancelled Star Trek Enterprise (ok, maybe not the best of the series, but good and interesting enough) after the 4th season - only letting the fourth season be made so that they could sell the show in syndication. TSCC was on the chopping block barely out of the gate - and the same awaits for Dollhouse.

As a fan of quality sci-fi, my view of Fox is that they just don't get the genre and have little to no staying power to allow a show to flourish and garner a following. If they had any respect for the fanbase, they would pass the show along to the Sci-fi channel if they have no intent of continuing on.

God only knows what would have happened to Battlestar Galactica if Fox had produced that series.

I agree and I also agree with Jonathon about CWTV. Perhaps it is just as well if Fox let's go of TSCC since they clearly do not have the brains to appreciate it. I just do not want the cast to have to be between jobs because that sucks.

...and you are right. It is clear that Fox dragging this thing out whether renewed or not means they have no respect for the fan base.

Oh, well, back to books. Wish a new War World book would come out.

-Tim

Guys, come on, can we please just grow up?

I'm a huge fan of TSCC and Dollhouse. If I needed to choose between them, I'm not sure which show would get my pick (probably TSCC), but let's be realistic here. TSCC is not getting renewed. If you had asked me a day or two ago, I would've said Dollhouse is not getting renewed either.

Unfortunately for those who are exclusively fans of TSCC, the buzz has been that TSCC has been dropped and Dollhouse has been picked up.

To be honest, even though I've been a fan of Joss Whedon for more than ten years now, in many ways I do wish the situation was reversed. I think Dollhouse was excellent toward the end of its run and had more interesting philosophical implications, but I'm more connected to the TSCC characters. Besides, there are few actors who can hold a candle to Summer Glau.

I just want you to understand my position when I ask this: how could you possibly be against this? Unless we are witness to the most rare of TV miracles, this show isn't coming back. If you truly love the characters (and not just the medium), it seems as though you'd be happy with any possible continuation. This "all or nothing" attitude seems to fly directly in the face of fandom and appears to be more of a pissing match than an actual appreciation of TSCC.

Finally, even if you can't reach the same conclusions that I have, can we at least stop with the bitterness toward Dollhouse and its fans? We're not the reason TSCC will most likely not be returning. Making fun of the show by calling it "Dullhouse" or other names is juvenile and simply reinforces the idea that sci-fi fans are no better than 12-year olds sitting in their parents' basement. It's pathetic. As I said earlier, grow up.

If I can't have TSCC on network television, then I would like to add my voice to those supporting its ressurection as a direct-to-DVD franchise. Any TSCC is better than no TSCC.

Listen, I really, really, really tried to like dollhouse. I watched nearly every episode and struggled to stay awake just about everytime. This show just is not good. As much as i love Joss Whedon's work this show just needs to end so he can go on and do something different/good. The only reason i could see fox renewing dollhouse is if they are trying to compete with ambien and lunesta.
It would be insane to never film another minute of T:TSCC but lets all be honest, if this comes out straight to DVD how many of us will actually buy it and how many of will just download it (probably before its retail release too!)

I think saying that the show just is not good is a pretty big judgement to make. You may not like it, but that's hardly an objective statement. It may be my least favourite of Joss's work, but I still happen to like it quite a bit.

But again - Dollhouse has nothing to do with this. Why are people getting so bent out of shape over this? At the end of the day, they're just freaking television shows.

Finally, if the fans of TSCC simply download any potential DVD movies, then I'd say they're simply confirming FOX's view of the show's potential for success.

Keep counting your sheeps!

Your just trying to drive us into a diffrent direction so Dollhouse fans can gain the advantage for renewal, but sadly this little site of yours won't help.

We have the movie and the better ratings, their is no way FOX will pick dullhouse over Terminator.

It's either us or nothing.

Sorry we want TSCC on a weekly bases, seems like Dollhouse would do just fine as straight to DVD movies instead.

Good luck with that.

What does this have to do with Dollhouse?

I want the characters also... No characters, no deal...

No, I want the characters to continue their adventures in a 22 episode season!

It's the characters I care about, not the plot.

I'd rather watch it on DVD... Save TSCC!!!